Category: Zone BBS Suggestions and Feedback
scott, I think that's a great idea. of course things such as how often a premium will be awarded with regards to a raffel would have to be worked out, but great idea!
Cam
yeh, verry nice idea
yeah, i like this idea. sounds good. although, like cam said, we'd have to work out how offen the raffles would be held.
dan.
Omg! I love this idea! I could buy two if they transferred my total points back, since I kept giving them away. lol
Agreed. This sounds like a good use for points.
Lou
yes good idea, but like people say tell us how often draws will be made etc.
Brilliant i have 40,000,000,000,000 points, can I enter 40,0000 times for this raffle?
Also a non premium member is only going to have ove a billion if there's a donation, or am I missing something?
18 quintrillian is now on the boards, 18 followed by 18 zeros, so these folks can donate 18 billion billion to poor people like me, that's 18 billion times to new comers to have a chance at premiom membership.
like this idea scott, i support it
For the Jaws user, 18 zeros is a quin trillian which jaws does not read, 15 zeros is read as a quad trillian 12 zeros as a trillian and the 9 zero billion brings us almost down to earth. It would seem just a little unfair if 2 hours at hi-lo gave some folks 18 billion raffle tickets and others only 1 or 2. How long have you spent on anagrams by the way?
I think that is a wonderful idea.
Keep us posted.
I think it's a great idea!
hey. i totally like the idea :). i hope it works out.
I also like this idea. Now that the betting limits for premium users have been raised, having zillions of points is possible, and premiums can donate points to standard members and easily get them back. So buying a raffle ticket for a billion points would be easy for almost anyone interested.
yes scott, i like this idea.
Becky and Rocky Waters, most (not all but most) premiums are too stuck-up to give away a single point. If I get a premium, I will have an Iyana's Points Store board, where standard users can request certain amounts of points and I will have an estimated wait time set up for them, and give them points when I'm able to. I'll also figure the tax in to that number so they'll get the number they requested.
I think there would have to be some number of maximum entries for a drawing to keep it a bit fairer and prevent our server from crashing creating 18 billion raffle tickets, literally.
yeah i agree. and i like the idea.
stuck up premiums? um? if only I could make those poiints. i'd be giving them away, but i can't bleedin make them. hmm
I also like this idea for the points. It is good that the points might now be possibly used for something. *smile*
Princess Leia, I have enjoyed giving away points on many occasions and know of a lot of other "stuck up" premiums who have done the same.
Hello, I like the idea, but would those that don't have a billion be entered automatically? some people don't share, I was one, but now I can get them back I would but don't beg! Besides, I like to bet on sports and all kinds of things. hahaha!
Oh I am sorry, I forgot to add that the tax is a dumb idea. I wonder if that had something with people not sharing because when you tryed to send 10 million, they only got 8, and then you had to redo the amount to get the corrected amount sent. Just my opinion.
I agree that's a really good idea
shawn mayes
SluggaBat Ent. President
I’ve never really understood the point behind the point transfer tax when transferring points to a non premium member. I mean does the zone czar somehow collect these taxes and then set up some kind of a welfare distribution system to distribute these points to the porrest of zone users? I mean if taxes are somehow being collected, is it not fair for the community at large to know where their taxes are going if you are taxing them in the first place? I mean if you are going to restructure the points system, these are serious questions to consider.
um wow. lol. welfare for poor zoners? its not like you exactly have to break your back earning points, working day by day in the hot sun or anything. its a website and you're playing games or something for points. you can get a raffle for a drawing for premium membership and that's really nice, but its not like anyone is in desperate need of these points to buy food or housing or something with and i don't know that whole thing about welfare and distributing to poor zoners just cracked me up. sorry lol. nothing wrong with giving points to your friends or whoever you decide to give them too but jeez. lol
Yes, i like this idea!
I think that she was making fun of the entire tax system. Actually its funny! hahahaha!!
I mean, I would rather give someone 5 billion than have the zone take 20 percent so that means I have to give more to make 5 billion. and you can do other things with the points like bet on games. Just my opinion
i like this idea as well. not that i play the games much, so i won't be able to even enter the draws, but at least the points will be used for something, and i don't get this tax thing either.
If someone is in danger of getting laid off for editing quick notes or creating quizzes, can we appeal for a point bail-out program? Maybe create a point stimulus package?
Lou
Leia, like Becky, I'm one of those "stuck-up premium members," who has given away points to other users quite frequently. Guess I know who I won't be giving them to, though. *Grin*
And, Scott and JJ, I like this idea as well. It's always seemed dumb to me to have a difference between usable points and total points, so I'm glad they'd all become usable.
I absolutely like this idea.
Karrie
It's a really good idea
Ok I like this idea of how the points are going to be used. If we are restructuring the points system though, I'd say we should start off clean. Our points should all be reset so that everyone gets a fair chance at the raffles and alll that stufff. What is this about the points getting reset on the Zone's birthday? I think it would be a perfect idea if they got reset and then the point system got restructured. Thanks
The Sensitive one
No they should not be reset. we are earning them now! Again those that don't have a billion or whatever should automatically be entered into the drawing. maybe give each a number of draws like 2 or 3. this way they have more than just one chance. Just my thoughts!
Personally, I think the whole tax thing, right along with the limitless premium points thing, is absolutely ridiculous. I think that this gets rid of any possible desire I would have to play the games, since i know that I could work my ass off to win points that a premium could get in a matter of seconds. I'm sorry, but this is just ridiculous.
As for the idea of having draws, I think it's a great idea. Although, i think there should be a limit on how many tickets someone can buy, since, again, premiums would literally be able to get limitless amounts of points, and therefore, limitless amounts of tickets. As for domating points... wel, i could name some premiums who would be too stuck up to do it, but also some who wouldn't. It just depends on who it is. I think that my idea of standard membership though, has turned from slightly limited to totally restricted. I have officially given up on playing the games, since there's almost no point anymore.
Andrew
Ah you got the point I was making. I was given 40 trillian points and I'm not a premium member. As points are now maxed out at a 19 digit number 40 trillian is small change and everybody's points are, well, rather pointless. A reset is almost inevitable I guesss.
baaah hum bug! i am for inflation hence i have so far given about 14 quintillion away if not more. are they going to be reset to reflect the credit crunch?
I still think they should restructure the points system. But since I think that, why not restructure and restore to default so that everyone has a fair chance? I vote for a reset.
The Sensitive One
I think that if they increase the premium betting limit to unlimited, they shoudl at least give standard members a million or something. I mean, considering that you can now literaly win quintillions of points per go if you're a premium, what difference does it really make. 10000 is a really insignificant number in my opinion.
also, I don't know if I would necessarily say there should be a reset, because already people who have been on here for a long time have billions of unusable points lying around. I never really agreed with the whole usable and total points thing anyways. I think that people should keep the points they win.
You know, there are at least a few people who think that the points tax is kind of unnecessary. Why doesn't someone start a board topic about it somewhere, preferably in suggestions. i will, if no one else will.
I agree they should let non premium members bet more than 10000 points. I am not really sure if the unlimited system is working, I am not getting credit for logging in, the games like anagrams and kino I play. I don't know what the limit should be, but maybe a trillion is to much.
I really don’t see why it would be necessary to create a separate board topic for the point tax issue as this issue should be relevant to restructuring the point system. Heck, as it stands now, it’s possible the whole system will soon come crashing down due to an overload of points and then we would all start back at zero again. Although there may not ever be a fair solution to this problem, if no one possessed trillions upon quadtrilions of points, then perhaps no one would be modivated to earn more points. But then again, if you’re like me and attach absolutely no meaning to the points, then you simply wouldn’t care what happens to them just as long as you could still play the games on here.
Yes, i see your point there. I don' necessarily attach a meaning o the points, bu i still think that what I said and wha other people have said is a good point. I think that, seeing as how premiums can now bet unlimited numbers of points, maybe standards should be able to bet one hundredth of their points or 10000, whichever is larger. Sort of like the way the premium system used to work.
Simon
Or perhaps the amount you could bet could be based on a percentage of how many points you have rather than a set number regardless of how many points you have in your account. Just a thought.
I don't like the unlimited points. At first it was kind of fun, but now after earning trillions of points with very little effort, I am no longer entertained by accumulating points. It's too easy and points are totally meaningless now. I guess technically, they've always been meaningless but somehow they're now even more meaningless to the point that it's no longer fun to play the games.
I think you've realized what i've been saying out here for the last couple of days.
I just did something anyone who knows how obsessed with points I used to be would be surprised to hear. I had so many points (a number followed by 18 zeros) that I got sick of them. I played hi-lo and deliberately lost until I got down to 0 points. Now I feel completely unencumbered. Woo hoo!!!
hmmm, all my 14000000000 points i worked hard for have just vanished out of fin air!. a few other people too... think something went wrong with the top points statistic
i agree totally, and well, honestly, this unlimited points thing has got to go. lol doo. it was fun for sure for a little while but lol, then it got old. when i could get quadrilians upon quadrilions of points in minutes. and hmm, if we keep this point tax around, hells, why not, distribute it back to the zoners somehow. lol
james, i'm going to have to agree.
as much as we all wanted it to start offf with, i now have to start from 0 points... because the zone system took all my points away for no reason!
please get rid of this
i think some of us have had a pouints reset.
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it doesn't show up on the stats page, but you look in their profiles and they are still there.
I always wanted to be able to bet more than 500000 points but I think unlimited bets have made the points somewhat more pointless as someone else previously said. For those of us that had a lot of points I think the risk should have been higher to make it more exciting playing, but what the limit should be I'm not really sure.
I also think a reset is worthwhile given that so many of us have maximum points right now, but I don't think I'd agree that it should be to 1000 as it was last year.
I don't think the problem is unlimited points, rather the games, or at least one game which had odds which definitely favored the player. So I'd rather fix the games in question than put limits on points, or at least try to.
hmm, I like what you did with the games, nice. so far, but I wonder what other changes you are going to make eventually
We're not sure. A bit at a time. Others hate Hi-Lo how it is now. But we need to restore some value (term used very loosely) for the points.
the new highlow sucks big time! I lost 2 quadtrillion yesterday, mostly because of ties. so how does it always favor the player?
This extra break even feature in highlow is dumb. the trivia is what is really wrong because of misspelled answers in the first place!!
Please go back to the old way, make the premium limits hire like a billion a bet, and the nonpremiums say about 1 million.
I personally don't like it, and I agree with Kevin going back to 1000 points after all we earned is unfair. No one will really listen, but maybe we should be asked before the changes take place. the system should have been tested to make sure it could handle the points before changing it. I really love the zone a lot, but these new changes to the games will make me think about purchasing memberships for me and a friend or two. just my opinions. .
I definitely agree that the premiums shoudl ahve a higher limit ,but not no limit. Maybe a billion or more, and standards in my opinion should have either 500000 or 1000000. I don't see the problem with that, and it still gives people some incentive to buy a premium membership, but makes it easier for standard members and a bit harder for premiums. After all, there's no fun in just winning so many points that you either overload the site or just have a ridiculously high number that jaws can't even read. I say let the points stay as they are, but put hi lo back as it is or maybe make two versions as I said on the other board topic about points, and put a limit on betting.
I agree with admin that it's not the points, but rather the games, even though I personally dont like the new high-low, it definitely serves the purpose! I dont think we should be reset either, we have worked so hard for those points!
Also to Andrew:
When I started out as a standard member, only being allowed to bet 10000 points, I had a goal: to get to the top! And so even though I was only allowed to bet 10000, I worked as hard as I could! It could be done! I got to a billion, of course there was that one week of free premium membership that helped a bit, but most of it was as a standard member. After that, of course, once I got to like 9000000000 or so, I was given the free premium, and that was just luck! But it can be done! If you put your mind to it, it can!
Also just to let you know, 25 dollars is not much, considering what your getting! i understand it's hard for some people, but if i were you, it would never hurt to consider a premium membership.
Just my thoughts.
And also, I forgot to mention, to those of you who are borred with the points, you can start over! There was never a law that said this was final!
Oh, and one more thing! Might I suggest get rid of the interest! That's throwing people off! Or at least maybe after a certain amount of points, that the system does not do that interest thing anymore. Now that I'm up so high, it's kind of setting me back when I log in fir the first time on a day. Again, just my thoughts.
I'll take a look at the interest code.
J, is it possible that you could simply have a feature whether premium or not, that would allow you to opt out of interest and the points given by staff? right now it tips you over the top if ranked one, and you have to go bet some stupid amount to get the ranking back.
I actually plan to get a premium, just have to get some other things sorted out first.
I like the points and the betting as it is now, but I do agree that the two correct guess at hi lo is a bit much, considering the ties and what not, it can't favor the player because luck never favors.
Ya, was busy today but will do something with interest if you're over a certain amount. Again, a reset is inevitable, anyway.
As for Hi-Lo, I thought of another idea. I could make it so you win the first time like the old way, but you would then have to hit play again to continue. In other words, you wouldn't be able to see the next card for free. That's where the points are probably mostly made, since you can decide based on that card.
I think that's a good idea. I say let's try it.
Hmmmm, well definitely do something about the interest though.
awesome. If you do that and get rid of the interest, things would be great. And i agree, it would make things fair for everyone. Althyough I still say increase the standard betting limit to 500000 or 1000000, but that's not totally necessary.
I personally like the old way of high low and kino. it seems as there are more ties now than before. setting a fair limit is okay also. Just my thoughts.
I would like to see the unlimited points taken away. Even with the raffle who needs a quadrillion points. Please take away the new kind of Hi-Lo. It isn't any fun any longer. When I played Blackjack, I got a blackjack but didn't get any points. I like the raffle idea. I have always wanted to do something with the points. I like giving them away, but don't like it when people begt. What are the taxes used for? Is this taxation without representation? Should we all dress up like aliens and throw the points into the delete file?
definitely. Tax and and limitless bets need to go. Or at least, tax definitely do. There's nothing worse than asking for 1000 points and getting 800 instead. That's just ridiculous.
I realy hope the admins are listening.
Auw, you guys are borring!
i would agree with the tax if the tax went towards anything.
true, but it doesn't seem to. For god's sake, not to mention the sake of all standard members, why should someone get 4/5 o the points you send them. That means both you and the person you're sending to are getting ripped off. Get rid of it!
The new Hi Low sucks giant green donkey testicles. Please change it back. I would much rather have a betting limit for controlling points accumulation than the new hi low rules. Seriously, it's suckalicious. Why oh why did y'all have to go tinkering with things? It was fine before all these changes. Grrrr.
since the old hi-lo wasn't broken, then why did you fix it? If its not broken then don't fix it. Also, why were the sounds changed? Can we have a choice, please
I wonder what would happen if you tried handing out points two at a time? I mean, it would be a pain in the fingers, but it woudl get rid of the tax.
sort of like taking thousands of pennies unrolled to the bank. Very interesting
well, I'm sick of this bloody point tax!
I feel bad for standard members, i mean the tax should get aliminated, and maybe even raise the betting limits a bit for standard members, cause everyone complains to me that they wish they could bet higher.
i dk, just a thought
I think that leaving the bet for standard members the way it is is the best thing. If you want the unlimitted bet, buy a membership. Just one ofthe perks, that's all. And the tax thing has got to go! That's so wrong. I think we should try J's idea with Hi-lo. Not saying it's set in stone, but it will at least make Hi-Lo a little more funner and less hard to win points. We'll just have to see though.
I think though that since there is no limit on the premiums now, there has to be some compensation for standard members. It was perfectly ok when premiums could only bet 50000 or 20% of their points, but now it's just ridiculously unbalanced.
I have thought for a long time that points should mean something more, like maybe you can use them to buy things I know you can on other game sites. So I support this.
One thing is fixed. If you have a trillion points or more, you no longer get interest.
I actually don't like Jay's idea that you don't get to see the next card before deciding whether or not to play on. Hi low has always been similar to a tv show from years ago where couples would have to guess higher or lower always working from the card that shows. and this is why it appealed to me.
I know a lot of people asked for no limit to betting, but the speed with which we ended up with the most points possible was kind of rediculous, and leaves you with nowhere to go, unless you give away trillions or quadrillions of points, which I'd rather not do, to me large amounts of points should be urnt.
I think we need to find a compromise, though I'm not sure what it is, baring in mind we'll never please everyone.
Ok, since most of us have gotten the idea now that we are, obviously, too rich to receive interest, wy not have something like this:
Quicknotes
You are too rich to receive interest. (click here to stop receiving this alert.)
Personally, I don't really think it's necessary for everyone to get that alert every single time they log in for the first time in a day, especially if they don't want to. Once is enough.
I agree with that.
as do I... and yes the tax needs to go.
yeah, hiding that alert would be nice, but if you got low enough to actually get intrest again it could show that.
Definitely. And then it could reenable the alert when you got too high until you once again clicked that link. or maybe there could even be an account setting. I jsut get sick of seeing that thing every day if it's nothing that I don't already know.
I do agree with that, although I do get used to seeing it, it would be nice to get rid of it after you've already seen it once, but I wonder how that would be possible.
Hi all. I don't know if I have to start a new thread to say this but anyway. I played hi low which of course I don't like anymore as many other people do but I risked and I lost about five hundred billion. I had about eleven billion left and I started playing trivia putting a bet of two billion and after I answered the question there came a message that my bet was in error and it was supposed to be the bet of 51 million instead of the trivia answering me if I was right or wrong to the answer I gave. Then I played again betting fifty million and this time I got another error message saying that my maximum bet should be one million. Then I put one million and I get the message that I should bet a few thousands. I don't remember the exact number of thousands. And now I saw how many points I have and from the eleven billion I had now I'm left with one million something. What on earth is going on? I mean I know that this is only a game but I can't understand what happened saddenly with trivia and my points in general. Anyway. That's it. Sorry for being a chatterbox.
Eleni
Yeah that's what happened to me too and that's how I lost all my points.
Sounds like i'm doing just fine not playing any more games. Oh, and the next person who posts will put this on a second page.
The trivia game is messed up, but it's the only way i can get points now that I always lose billions of points with high-low.
First it says you can bet the amount of points you have. Then when you submit that amount it says 2147483647 instead of the amount you bet.
That number seems to be a number that causes certain programs to overflow. I can't say exactly why, but my advice to you is not to bet anything above that. It's obviously messed up. i think the hi lo game should be fixed so that premiums have a limit, and if they try to be over that limit they will encounter the hi lo we are all used to now. I don't understand why it was necessary to change the hi lo for standard members to begin with since we weren't affected by the initial point change.
i wish they didn't change keno. it was a lot better the way it was before!
anyway, i don't really care how they do the draw as long as I win a free premium membership! *smile*
I hate Hi/Lo! I don't mind losing but when you lose probably 90% of the time, it isn't any fun. The object should be fun not frustration. Please change it back.
Marsha is right. The whole purpose of the Zone is fun, not frustration. Change Keno and Hi-Lo so that's it's more fun. I understand how hard it is which is why I don't care how long it takes. Well, I do, but I understand if it takes some time. At least I'll know it's being worked on and cared about.
i was hoping this board was still up here, as I want to put something back out there. If indeed we need to reset, i think we should leave the system the way it is. i'm referring to the usable points and the total point thing. I mean, if we all worked so hard to get what we have, and now we'll have to reset, it won't matter how many points we're left with, but we should still be able to keep them.
I know this may go against others; however, I really don't care about resetting the points. While it is fun to accumulate points, enjoyment is the important thing. Perhaps I am beating a dead horse; however, I want the old hi/lo back. If that means putting limits on that game, then don't hesitate to do this. Renewal of premium services is very close now. Community leaders please remember this.
Well, that renewal thing happnes year round doesn't it? As people have gotten their premiums at different times!
Yes, this is true; however, I was specifically referring to myself. Hi/Lo definitely is no longer fun even though I do sometimes play it. The site is sure building up the points from me. Wondering where these points go. Perhaps there could be a stimulous package made with them. smile
Maybe it's just the fact that I haven't bee non here very long, but why would anyone want to reset your points so that you can't even use what you've won. That would, in my opinion, completely take away from the fun of the games, if I knew that I were going to get a reset anyway.